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	Russian vehicles are by far the most commonly seen vehicles. They made Hundreds of thousands of everything and sold them to anyone they could. This results in not only Russian forces using these vehicles, but also many other countries and even militias or insurgent forces. Russian vehicles can be hard to ID sometimes - particularly the main battle tanks, as they are all very similar in appearance but vastly different in functionality and threat level. It is recommended that you spend some time on this section. Under here will be the main Russian vehicle families.		Russian vehicles are by far the most commonly seen vehicles. They made Hundreds of thousands of everything and sold them to anyone they could. This results in not only Russian forces using these vehicles, but also many other countries and even militias or insurgent forces. Russian vehicles can be hard to ID sometimes - particularly the main battle tanks, as they are all very similar in appearance but vastly different in functionality and threat level. It is recommended that you spend some time on this section. Under here will be the main Russian vehicle families.

			[[File:2888663353 preview 1.jpg\|none\|thumb\|891x891px\|Soviet nomenclature]]

	===Light Armor===		===Light Armor===

	======BRDM Family======		======BRDM Family======
			[[File:2888687616 preview 21.jpg\|center\|thumb\|890x890px\|How to recognize RECCE vehicles]]
	[[File:BDRMfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px\|border\|'''<u>Left to right:</u>''' BRDM-2,BRDM-2 Konkurs, BRDM-2UM]]		[[File:BDRMfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px\|border\|'''<u>Left to right:</u>''' BRDM-2,BRDM-2 Konkurs, BRDM-2UM]]

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	=====BMP Family=====		=====BMP Family=====
			[[File:2888687616 preview 12.jpg\|none\|thumb\|893x893px]]
	[[File:BMPfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BMPfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
	All BMP's are Infantry Fighting vehicles. They can carry a small team of infantry. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. They all feature exceptionally poor gun depression, the BMP-1 pairing this with poor elevation.		All BMP's are Infantry Fighting vehicles. They can carry a small team of infantry. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. They all feature exceptionally poor gun depression, the BMP-1 pairing this with poor elevation.
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	=====SPGs and Rocket launchers=====		=====SPGs and Rocket launchers=====

	[[File:RussianTD.jpg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:RussianTD.jpg\|center\|900px]]
	The 2S25 "Sprut" is a self propelled anti tank gun. It is lightly armored and based on the BMD3. Light or medium AT will knock it out. Easily identified by its long gun and unique turret.		The 2S25 "Sprut" is a self propelled anti tank gun. It is lightly armored and based on the BMD3. Light or medium AT will knock it out. Easily identified by its long gun and unique turret.
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	===Heavy Armor===		===Heavy Armor===
			[[File:2888663353 preview 2.jpg\|none\|thumb\|891x891px]]

	=====T-34 & T-55=====		=====T-34 & T-55=====

Philbilly: Got rid of legacy formatting line breaks to make visual editing easier. Still on the fence about each vehicle "family" having its own header, as it bloats the TOC list. If anyone wants to make the formatting flow better, please do!

2022-08-31T00:48:31Z

Got rid of legacy formatting line breaks to make visual editing easier. Still on the fence about each vehicle "family" having its own header, as it bloats the TOC list. If anyone wants to make the formatting flow better, please do!

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Philbilly: Multiple small edits, adding in missing vehicles and beginnings of a NATO section.

2022-08-30T03:42:11Z

Multiple small edits, adding in missing vehicles and beginnings of a NATO section.

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Philbilly: \Russian light armor\ Trimmed fat. Broke up mega paragraphs. added framework for flashcard style info pages akin to AT pages. Added a few missing vehicles that will need pictures and detailed info.

2022-08-30T00:54:28Z

\Russian light armor\ Trimmed fat. Broke up mega paragraphs. added framework for flashcard style info pages akin to AT pages. Added a few missing vehicles that will need pictures and detailed info.

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	[[File:BDRMfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BDRMfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]

	BRDM's are light scout cars. They are often mistaken for BTRs. The fastest way to tell the difference is the number of wheels. BRDM's have 4, BTRs have 8. The armor on these things is paper thin. MMG, HMG, 40mm, and at most light AT ~~are all you need for~~ these.		BRDM's are light scout cars. They are often mistaken for BTRs. The fastest way to tell the difference is the number of wheels. BRDM's have 4, BTRs have 8. BRDM's can be mounted with a unique mount with 5x "Konkurs" ATGMs. The armor on these things is paper thin. 7.62 MMG, HMG, 40mm, and at most light AT will make quick work of these vehicles.

			[[BRDM Flashcards]]

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BTR Family'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BTR Family'''

	[[File:BTRfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BTRfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
	BTR's have extremely light armor, they can be taken out with HMG fire or in the case of the early variants, even 7.62 AP can affect them. Shooting out their tires is an effective way to render them immobile. ~~They~~ are personnel carriers and can fit a squad of infantry inside and more on top. Later model BTRs are not to be underestimated. BTR-60 and BTR-70 are armed with machineguns, BTR-80A and later introduce 30mm ~~class~~ autocannons and pose a serious threat to infantry because of their mobility and standoff capability. ~~80BTR~~-80 and onwards had much thicker armor than previous models. All BTR- series vehicles share commonality with poor visibility for the crew and either nonexistent or poor optics and gun stabilization.		BTR's have extremely light armor, they can be taken out with HMG fire or in the case of the early variants, even 7.62 AP can affect them. Shooting out their tires is an effective way to render them immobile. But they are not normal tires, as they are equipped with automatic tire inflation systems rendering a couple holes irrelevant. BTRs are personnel carriers and can fit a squad of infantry inside and more on top. Later model BTRs are not to be underestimated. BTR-60 and BTR-70 are armed with machineguns, BTR-80A and later introduce 30mm autocannons and pose a serious threat to infantry because of their mobility and standoff capability. BTR-80 and onwards had much thicker armor than previous models, but are still vulnerable to .50cal fire to the side. All BTR series vehicles share commonality with poor visibility for the crew and either nonexistent or poor optics and gun stabilization.

			[[BTR Flashcards]]

			::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''MTLB Family'''
			[[File:MTLBfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
			MTLB's are lightly armored APCs. They can carry 10 infantry and are armed with a PKT in a silly little cone shaped turret at the very front right side of the vehicle. The MTLB is paper thin, and can be knocked out with HMG fire in a pinch. But LAT is recommended for a quick kill.

			Similar to the American M113, the MTLB chassis was used to create all sorts of other weapon systems. As such you can often find them with ZU-23 AAA pieces bolted atop them. These can pose a great threat to infantry or aircraft in this configuration.

			[[MTLB Flashcards]]

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMP Family'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMP Family'''

	[[File:BMPfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BMPfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
	BMP's are Infantry Fighting vehicles. They can carry a small team of infantry. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. They all feature exceptionally poor gun depression, the BMP-1 pairing this with poor elevation~~, for which in part it was replaced. Some of the newer variants come with ERA panels that can prevent AT from doing its job if you do not aim for a weak spot~~. BMP-1 is a fairly low threat vehicle, featuring a low slung fully tracked and lightly armored hull fitted with a fully ~~traversible~~ turret armed with a low velocity gun firing a neutered recoilless rifle round ~~(ineffectual beyond 400m and against nearly all modern armor)~~ and early ATGM ~~and featuring~~ low armor, poor crew visibility and bad weapons stabilization. Following experiences in Afghanistan the Soviets upgraded the vehicle with increased armor and an improved turret, ~~incrementally~~ with ~~first~~ hull armor upgrades ~~and substitution of the ATGM for an AGS-17 AGL~~ on the BMP-1D(desantnik/assault infantry) sacrificing amphibious capabilities ~~and eventually fully~~ replacing the turret to provide an autocannon creating the BMP-2. BMP-2 is largely impervious to .50 Cal fire and ~~poses a similar threat to infantry as late model BTRs~~. BMP-3 was a further upgrade in the 90s featuring a brand new hull providing 20-25mm autocannon protection to the front. The vehicle is significantly larger and more angular, featuring an easily identifiable 100mm gun/atgm launcher in a turret which is fully stabilized, provides much better visibility, and also features a 30mm autocannon and MMG mounted ~~coaxally~~ to the main gun. This vehicle can serve the light tank role as well as being the first of the new generation of IFVs, and poses a significant threat to infantry and ~~BLUFOR light~~ vehicles.		All BMP's are Infantry Fighting vehicles. They can carry a small team of infantry. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. They all feature exceptionally poor gun depression, the BMP-1 pairing this with poor elevation.

			The BMP-1 is often a fairly low threat vehicle, featuring a low slung fully tracked and lightly armored hull fitted with a fully traversable turret armed with a low velocity gun firing a neutered recoilless rifle round and an early 9M14 "Malyutka" ATGM. The turret has low armor, poor crew visibility and bad weapons stabilization. Following experiences in Afghanistan the Soviets upgraded the vehicle with increased armor and an improved turret, and upgraded 9M111 "Fagot" ATMGs. Experiments continued with the hull armor upgrades on the BMP-1D(desantnik/assault infantry) sacrificing amphibious capabilities. Eventually replacing the turret again to provide an autocannon creating the BMP-2.

			[[BMP-1 Flashcards]]

			The BMP-2 Features a larger turret with more armor, better visibility, and A 30mm autocannon as its main armament as well as "Konkurs" ATGMs to punch above its weight. It poses a significant threat to infantry! BMP-2s feature slightly better armor rendering them largely impervious to .50 Cal fire from the front. BMP-2D models have additional armor and are no longer amphibious.

			[[BMP-2 Flashcards]]

			The BMP-3 was a further upgrade in the 90s featuring a brand new hull providing 20-25mm autocannon protection to the front. The vehicle is significantly larger and more angular, featuring an easily identifiable 100mm gun/atgm launcher in a turret which is fully stabilized, provides much better visibility, and also features a 30mm autocannon and MMG mounted coaxially to the main gun. This vehicle can serve the light tank role as well as being the first of the new generation of IFVs, and poses a significant threat to infantry and vehicles.

			[[BMP-3 Flashcards]]

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMD Family'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMD Family'''

	[[File:BMDfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BMDfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
	BMD's are Essentially smaller BMP's that were designed for airborne units, they were often designed and developed parallel to the BMPs intended to be used by ~~Category A~~ divisions in Western Europe and as such share similar levels of weapons armament, visibility, and weapons stabilization. Critically, they are as a rule less ~~well~~ armored than their BMP equivalents~~, and following the Soviet Afghan experience were likely to be found fitted with AGS-17 30mm automatic grenade lauchers (relevant for possible future changes to modpack)~~. They are Infantry Fighting Vehicles with smaller crew compartments than their BMP counterparts. The early BMD's can be ID'd by their trademark "U" shaped bow. The BMD-3 and newer are basically up to par with BMPs. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. Distinguishing between BMPs and BMDs is largely unimportant, as they pose the same threat on the battlefield.		BMD's are Essentially smaller BMP's that were designed for airborne units, they were often designed and developed parallel to the BMPs intended to be used by airborne divisions in Western Europe and as such share similar levels of weapons armament, visibility, and weapons stabilization. Critically, they are as a rule less armored than their BMP equivalents. They are Infantry Fighting Vehicles with smaller crew compartments than their BMP counterparts. The early BMD 1's and 2's can be ID'd by their trademark "U" shaped bow. The BMD-3 and newer are basically up to par with BMPs. They have heavy enough armor to require light or medium AT. Distinguishing between BMPs and BMDs is largely unimportant, as they pose the same threat on the battlefield. But, knowing the difference may tell you who you are fighting in certain situations.

			[[BMD Flashcards]]

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''ZSU Family'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''ZSU Family'''
	[[File:RussianAA.jpg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:RussianAA.jpg\|center\|900px]]

	The important Anti air is in the middle. That is a ZSU-23-4 AKA "Shilka". They are pretty unique looking, and you will definitely know when one is shooting at you. They can depress the guns low enough to be a threat to infantry and light vehicles. They have armor strong enough to take some punishment. Hit the sides or rear with Light AT, ideally use medium AT if its available. The same devastating 23mm tandem gun is standard as an emplacement, and is often found mounted on the backs of Ural trucks.		The important Anti air is in the middle. That is a ZSU-23-4 AKA "Shilka". They are pretty unique looking, and you will definitely know when one is shooting at you. They can depress the guns low enough to be a threat to infantry and light vehicles. They have armor strong enough to take some punishment. Hit the sides or rear with Light AT, ideally use medium AT if its available. The same devastating 23mm tandem gun is standard as an emplacement, and is often found mounted on the backs of Ural trucks or bolted to random APCs such as the MT-LB.

			[[ZSU Flashcards]]
			::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''2SM6 "Tunguska"'''
			[[File:Tunguska.jpg\|center\|900px]]
			AAA and SAM system. More info to be added.
			armed with 2x 30mm autocannon and 8x 9M311 Surface to air missiles.

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''SPGs and Rocket launchers'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''SPGs and Rocket launchers'''
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	'''Left to right:''' 2S3M1 "Akatsiya" 152mm Self propelled howitzer, BM-21 "Grad" 133mm Multiple rocket launcher, 9K79 "Scarab" Tactical Ballistic missile launcher. I'm including these because they can be pretty high value targets, but generally pose little direct threat to infantry as they're much longer range assets. If you can see them, they probably can't easily hurt you.		'''Left to right:''' 2S3M1 "Akatsiya" 152mm Self propelled howitzer, BM-21 "Grad" 133mm Multiple rocket launcher, 9K79 "Scarab" Tactical Ballistic missile launcher. I'm including these because they can be pretty high value targets, but generally pose little direct threat to infantry as they're much longer range assets. If you can see them, they probably can't easily hurt you.

	2S3M1: Hit it with well placed light AT or medium AT. Self propelled howitzer armed with ~~152mm~~ cannon. No threat as long as you are close enough to hit it with AT		2S3M1: Self propelled howitzer armed with 152mm cannon. No threat as long as you are close enough to hit it with AT. Hit it with well placed light AT or medium AT and watch the fireworks.

			2S1 "Gvozdika": (not yet pictured) Self propelled howitzer armed with 122mm cannon. No threat as long as you are close enough to hit it with AT. Based on MTLB hull, and thus is very lightly armored. Hit it with well placed light AT or medium AT and watch the fireworks.


	BM-21 "Grad": Its an unarmored truck loaded with explosives, do what you must.		BM-21 "Grad": Its an unarmored truck loaded with explosives, do what you must.

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Arkangel Vigilamus: /* Light Armor */

2018-04-02T21:28:01Z

Light Armor

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	[[File:BTRfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:BTRfamily.jpeg\|center\|900px]]
	BTR's have extremely light armor, they can be taken out with HMG fire or in the case of the early variants, even 7.62 AP can ~~effect~~ them. Shooting out their tires is an effective way to render them immobile. They are personnel carriers and can fit a squad of infantry inside and more on top. Later model BTRs are not to be underestimated. BTR-60 and BTR-70 are armed with machineguns, BTR-80A and later introduce 30mm class autocannons and pose a serious threat to infantry because of their mobility and standoff capability. 80BTR-80 and onwards had much thicker armor than previous models. All BTR- series vehicles share commonality with poor visibility for the crew and either nonexistent or poor optics and gun stabilization.		BTR's have extremely light armor, they can be taken out with HMG fire or in the case of the early variants, even 7.62 AP can affect them. Shooting out their tires is an effective way to render them immobile. They are personnel carriers and can fit a squad of infantry inside and more on top. Later model BTRs are not to be underestimated. BTR-60 and BTR-70 are armed with machineguns, BTR-80A and later introduce 30mm class autocannons and pose a serious threat to infantry because of their mobility and standoff capability. 80BTR-80 and onwards had much thicker armor than previous models. All BTR- series vehicles share commonality with poor visibility for the crew and either nonexistent or poor optics and gun stabilization.

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMP Family'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''BMP Family'''

Philbilly: /* Helicopters */

2018-03-13T04:12:01Z

Helicopters

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	===Helicopters===		===Helicopters===

	This section will cover Russian helicopters. Every screenshot will have all of the variants of the helicopter in a "family" line up as well as one of the helicopters shown flying at a distance to provide a profile. All of these screenshots can be expanded by clicking them and then clicking the full image size under it. In this case because I still live in 2005 they go no higher than 1600x900. If anyone would like to replicate these with higher resolution, feel free to do so ~~and then send~~ the files ~~to HQ or specialist to be uploaded~~.		This section will cover Russian helicopters. Every screenshot will have all of the variants of the helicopter in a "family" line up as well as one of the helicopters shown flying at a distance to provide a profile. All of these screenshots can be expanded by clicking them and then clicking the full image size under it. In this case because I still live in 2005 they go no higher than 1600x900. If anyone would like to replicate these with higher resolution, feel free to do so as updates to the current files.

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-8 "Hip"'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-8 "Hip"'''

Wimmisky: /* Helicopters */

2018-02-27T02:15:52Z

Helicopters

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	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-8 "Hip"'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-8 "Hip"'''
	[[File:Mi-8family.jpg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:Mi-8family.jpg\|center\|900px]]
	The Mi-8 can be unarmed Transport helicopters, or come loaded for bear. Even Transport variants can have door gunners. Late versions have a gunner in the nose with the pilots. They can carry Fuel air bombs, rockets, and gun pods. Mi-8s are lightly armored and can be taken out with small arms. It is important not to call them a Hind since a Hind is ~~basically~~ a flying infantry fighting vehicle that can kill you even if it's not facing towards you.		The Mi-8 can be unarmed Transport helicopters, or come loaded for bear. Even Transport variants can have door gunners. Late versions have a gunner in the nose with the pilots. They can carry Fuel air bombs, rockets, and gun pods. Mi-8s are lightly armored and can and should be taken out with massed small arms fire, especially directed at the unarmored and large glass-enclosed cockpit. It is important not to call them a Hind since a Hind is a flying infantry fighting vehicle that can kill you even if it's not facing towards you. A radio alert of a "Rocket Hip" in the area represents a significant threat to all friendlies in the area, mounted with a full complement of rocket pods a single Hip poses a threat roughly equivalent to a 122mm class MLRS battery.

	Note that there is a Mi-24 in the backdrop of this picture in the far top left. If you look at the bigger version of this screenshot by clicking on it and viewing the full size, you can clearly see the difference in the profile at range.		Note that there is a Mi-24 in the backdrop of this picture in the far top left. If you look at the bigger version of this screenshot by clicking on it and viewing the full size, you can clearly see the difference in the profile at range.
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	[[File:Mi-24family.jpg\|center\|900px]]		[[File:Mi-24family.jpg\|center\|900px]]
	Mi-24s can be a huge threat. They have decently heavy armor as far as aircraft go. It is recommended to use Anti Air if possible, .50 cal can take them down but not in small amounts. They can carry Fuel air bombs, rockets, gun pods, and can have a gun in a turret under the cockpit (generally 13.7mm). They can also be armed with air to air missiles. They have a very distinct and very loud sound. ~~They also have~~ a very distinct double bubble cockpit. Don't let Hinds land, as they will likely surprise you with an entire infantry squad popping out the back.		Mi-24s can be a huge threat. They have decently heavy armor as far as aircraft go. It is recommended to use Anti Air if possible, .50 cal can take them down but not in small amounts. Massed small arms fire has little effect except to aid the crew in target selection. They can carry Fuel air bombs, rockets, gun pods, and can have a gun in a turret under the cockpit (generally 13.7mm). They can also be armed with air to air missiles. They have a very distinct and very loud sound. Hind-D introduced a very distinct double bubble cockpit which aids crew survivability. Don't let Hinds land, as they will likely surprise you with an entire infantry squad popping out the back.

	::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-28 "Havoc"'''		::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'''Mi-28 "Havoc"'''

Philbilly: /* Light Armor */

2018-02-27T02:07:54Z

Light Armor

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	'''Left to right:''' 2S3M1 "Akatsiya" 152mm Self propelled howitzer, BM-21 "Grad" 133mm Multiple rocket launcher, 9K79 "Scarab" Tactical Ballistic missile launcher. I'm including these because they can be pretty high value targets, but generally pose little direct threat to infantry as they're much longer range assets. If you can see them, they probably can't easily hurt you.		'''Left to right:''' 2S3M1 "Akatsiya" 152mm Self propelled howitzer, BM-21 "Grad" 133mm Multiple rocket launcher, 9K79 "Scarab" Tactical Ballistic missile launcher. I'm including these because they can be pretty high value targets, but generally pose little direct threat to infantry as they're much longer range assets. If you can see them, they probably can't easily hurt you.

	2S3M1: Hit it with well placed light AT or medium AT. ~~This system was designed~~ to ~~accommodate a primary mission to act in a direct fire role as a tank destroyer role following Soviet experiences in WWII and is often used accordingly in modern conflicts. As such,~~ it~~'s low and non-angular silhouette for an SPG can pose a threat.~~		2S3M1: Hit it with well placed light AT or medium AT. Self propelled howitzer armed with 152mm cannon. No threat as long as you are close enough to hit it with AT

	BM-21 "Grad": Its an unarmored truck loaded with explosives, do what you must.		BM-21 "Grad": Its an unarmored truck loaded with explosives, do what you must.